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the oldest

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and strongest human emotion is fear

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and the oldest and strongest type of

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fear

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is trepidation of the unknown

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when we were children our parents told

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us that monsters didn't exist

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but we were sure that something was

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lurking under the bed or in the closet

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fear sees even if our eyes are closed

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welcome to the realm of the arcane my

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name is lon

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stripler join me as i examine

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unexplained creatures

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strange manifestations of remarkable

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realities

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imagine this next hour as a voyage of

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discovery to strange lands

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seeking not for new territory but for

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new knowledge of the supernatural

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come on board as we begin this adventure

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together

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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another episode of arcane

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radio where we explore the unexplained

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live on beyond

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explanation i'm your host lon strickler

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coming to you from the spectral shadows

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of gettysburg pennsylvania

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now before i introduce my guest i want

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to

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go over a case i recently see received

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and i thought it was pretty interesting

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it involved a civilian employee over the

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greenville

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mississippi air force base which is now

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the mid delta regional airport

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this happened back in the 50s and uh it

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involved a craft and an

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alien being sighting so let me read the

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what was sent to me the witness stated

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that

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my uncle was an electronic specialist

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and civilian employee

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at the air force base in greenville

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mississippi in the mid 50s

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now one day some military authorities

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escorted

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him and several other civilian employees

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into a large aircraft

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hangar and ordered them to stay there

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until they were told that they could

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another men's questions about what was

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going on were answered the military

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authorities closed the hangar doors

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and left now the men in the hangar hung

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around the area where the hangar doors

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came together

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and they discovered that they could

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actually peek outside

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what they noticed was a disc shaped

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aircraft about

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40 foot in diameter descend vertical

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and land on the tarmac outside the

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hangar

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now several men with cameras filmed the

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incident from the elevated scaffolding

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and other cameramen stood on the ground

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a door opened on the aircraft and a

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the alien being used a handheld device

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with the military personnel now the

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aircraft was on tripod

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landing gear with wheels and several men

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were ordered to push it into the hangar

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and once the alien aircraft was inside

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the hangar

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the men closed the doors now the doors

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reopened several minutes later and the

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same men

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pushed the alien aircraft back outside

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into its original position the men

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around the aircraft stepped away from

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from it and it soon lifted vertically

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civilian men were standing and told them

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now the what the person who wrote to me

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stated that i was a teenager

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when i heard this story and my reaction

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to it was a mix of uncertainty and

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my uncle didn't have any reason to lie

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and years later i was watching a program

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about ufos on television and a man

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who saw the same event described it

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as my uncle had described it years

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earlier in every detail

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i was amazed but while i have seen many

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ufo programs on television

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repeated several times i never saw that

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particular interview again

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i now realize the importance of the

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event but my uncle died several years

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and i imagine that the other witnesses

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have passed as well

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so uh just the same i wanted to get this

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information

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out there for what it's worth so here it

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is i hope to prove it beneficial our

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government is

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about to confess it has lied to us about

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ufos since 1949

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uh doing so would destroy a little

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credibility still has well

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i i guess if you buy into what they're

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showing us

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lately i and which i believe they're

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kind of spoon feeding us what they want

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to show us

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but you know it is what it is so uh

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i thought that was an interesting uh an

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interesting account

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so tonight i welcome paranormal

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investigator and author

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kitsy duncan to arcane radio now kitsy

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has been investigating the paranormal

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for over 12 years she investigates

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differently

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than most uh she goes into she goes in

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with love

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light peace and positivity and helps the

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spirits tell her stories

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as host and lead investigator for oddity

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files

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kitsia has sought the paranormal in some

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of the most interesting haunted

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locations

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in her recent release book i'd rather

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talk to dead people

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kitschy shares her experiences she is

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also producer and lead investigator for

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tv

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oddity files on amazon prime

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and she is also the co-host of

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audiophiles podcast

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co-host true crime podcast miss murder

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and host the get scared podcast

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so kitschy thanks for coming on the show

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you're quite busy

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thank you so much for having me yeah i'm

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a little less busy miss murder's on

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permanent

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hiatus right now i just you know i just

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needed to breathe and hydrate

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so i i cut out one of the podcasts

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recently it was just

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a lot you know when the pandemic went

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down i'm like you know i just gotta keep

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busy gotta keep busy gotta keep busy

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and you know i've had like 40 million

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podcasts wrote a book and

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and now the book's out and i'm like you

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know what i'm just gonna chill for a bit

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well i don't blame you i'll tell you i

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um i had actually wanted to write

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another book this year but you know even

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with the downtime

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and the the less amount of investigating

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my team and i have been doing because of

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so we'll just have to wait and see it's

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a lot harder than it looks on tv writing

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a book you know oh absolutely

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so i loved it i'm sorry go ahead go

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ahead no i

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you know this is what we want to talk

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about your your book and um

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but first of all how did you get

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involved with the paranormal

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um so i was terrified

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of it growing up anything otherworldly

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aliens included in that close encounters

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the third kind ruined me

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the movie poltergeist ruined me i was

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that little girl who

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mom had to tell me i had an overactive

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imagination and i believed her thank god

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um but my dad passed away

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when i was in my 30s um he was only 53

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years old and here i am

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knocking on 51's door so the older i get

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the scarier

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that number gets for me but you know i

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i just kind of felt like he was with me

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nearly as scary as the movie poltergeist

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so i finally got around and binged

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all the paranormal tv shows i could get

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hands on i read some books i i read

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websites and i

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realized that ghosts can't kill you so

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ghost so i'm gonna look into this and

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i had some friends that had a paranormal

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team and they invited me on an

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and i walked into our very

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my very first paranormal investigation

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and i felt

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at home i wasn't scared i wasn't you

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know having a panic attack it felt

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lovely if that makes any sense so we

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went through the night and

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you know the one guys yelling at the

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ghost

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come at me bro and somebody allegedly

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got scratched and i'm like

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these people

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so um i went on one more investigation

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with them

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and then i i just went out on my own and

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i was out on the east coast at fairy

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plantation

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wonderful location and

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i then saw my first ghost and i was

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well uh how did you react to this first

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ghost that you

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witnessed i chased after her

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oh did you little girl where'd you go

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where'd she go

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and i i rounded the corner so what

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happened was

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she she was known as the fairy

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plantation girl they now have a name for

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she kind of peeked her head around the

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corner and had the most adorable little

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smile

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look looked at me right in the eyes then

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ducked back around the doorway and i'm

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like

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oh i have to follow her and i went

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around the corner and

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it was a dead end there was nowhere she

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um and you know in retrospect she wasn't

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flash flesh colored or anything she had

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a bluish grayish hue to her

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but i still to this day have that

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imprint in my mind of this

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sweet little girl and her petticoat and

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her curly little hair

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and i went and talked to the people who

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ran the investigations there

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and i explained what i had seen and they

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bring up this book

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of all these drawings of the spirit that

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other people had seen there and it was

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this little girl so it validated what i

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saw did i get on that on camera

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of course not because you know that

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would be way too easy

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um but i was i was

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absolutely hooked at that point

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well i i tell you i i have been

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seeing or sensing spirit energy ever

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since i was little

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and it's something i grew up with i you

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know i was born and raised around

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gettysburg battlefield so i was on there

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all the time i mean during the summers i

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spent

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camp out at night sometimes

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and uh you know and i i knew i had some

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abilities

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but i didn't really understand them but

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uh

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as time went on i started to understand

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a little better

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um i didn't live in a haunted house i

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did anything like that but i could

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actually

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sense and learn that i could sense these

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energies when they were around me yeah

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so

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you know i got you know it's it's

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interesting how

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people start to uh

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realize the paranormal different ways

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they start to realize it and i mean of

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course you saw

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you you got interested in it right away

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and then you saw

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an entity and uh

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like you said you were hooked yeah yeah

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i did grow up in the haunted house

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i did uh but did i ever see a ghost that

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no because

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mom just kept saying it was my

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overactive imagination and i just

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pulled the blankets over my head and you

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know get in the fetal position

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and and whimper myself to sleep but we

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had a ghost that would hide things from

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us

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all the time and it was the running joke

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in our house

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so um my family was

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open to it but it was just so

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scary for me and i don't know because

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i come to find out i am an empath and i

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do sense things and i

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maybe that's why i was so scared of it

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as a kid

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you know i say this all the time i wish

350
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there was a paranormal rule book

351
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you know like the real handbook for the

352
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recently deceased from beetlejuice that

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yeah it's um you know it is funny how

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different people react to it

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and uh and how others just kind of get

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used to it

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and you know enjoy you know of course i

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i guess there's a lot of these

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investigators

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are people who call themselves

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investigators go out there for the fear

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factor

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aspect of it you know i don't buy

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anything i'm like you

365
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when i and when i used to do a lot of

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investigations i didn't go out there

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screaming at

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spirits to share themselves or you know

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this and that i mean i i tried to

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maintain

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a little bit of decency if i could uh

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you know

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i i i will admit i have been attacked

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literally i have been physically

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attacked on occasion

376
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uh but it's uh it was just because of

377
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what i ran

378
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into it wasn't anything i did yeah

379
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and one great thing about writing this

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book

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and putting everything to paper or

382
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computer screen

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whichever it may be is i i kind of came

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to the conclusion

385
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that people need and

386
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in real life too not just dealing with

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ghosts you need to open up

388
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the lines of communication you need to

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have a sense of

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empathy like um one of the locations we

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went to

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in kentucky was known for actually

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throwing an

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investigator across the room and this

395
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same spirit was also known for calling

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women bad names and i'm like i'm not

397
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having it you know i deal with spirits

398
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like i would somebody who was standing

399
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in front of me

400
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i think more people need to do that stop

401
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being

402
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keyboard warriors because you can't see

403
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the spirit

404
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they're there they were human at one

405
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point and they have feelings too and if

406
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you make them mad

407
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they're gonna get mad so but this

408
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gentleman that was you know not a fan of

409
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ladies and

410
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i flat out asked him i said so why do

411
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you hate women so much it doesn't bother

412
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me that you just called me a [\h__\h]

413
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i don't care what is the problem

414
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i said what did your wife cheat on you

415
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and over my spirit box he said yeah

416
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and i said well what what was your [\h__\h]

417
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wife's name and he goes penny

418
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i said there you go i'm gonna tell your

419
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story

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now stop treating women like that and by

421
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the end of the night when i went back to

422
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that same room

423
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on a solo investigation by myself

424
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the ghost ended up telling me he liked

425
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me and that i was beautiful

426
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so you know it's just again it's like

427
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dealing with people when you're face to

428
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face with somebody you're not just gonna

429
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start yelling at them

430
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well i mean in this day and age people

431
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do but

432
00:16:03,990 --> 00:16:00,880
we need to stop it yeah i agree with you

433
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um you know

434
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when people i mean people get scared of

435
00:16:10,470 --> 00:16:08,240
noises or they start seeing

436
00:16:12,470 --> 00:16:10,480
things but the first thing you got you

437
00:16:16,150 --> 00:16:12,480
gotta have them realize

438
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is most of the time if if not 99 percent

439
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of the time they're just looking for

440
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attention

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a lot of them don't even know they're

442
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dead i mean they you know they they may

443
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have died suddenly

444
00:16:30,389 --> 00:16:27,199
or uh they felt that they had to remain

445
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on this level because of uh unfinished

446
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business or

447
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for whatever reason but they um

448
00:16:40,629 --> 00:16:38,399
you know they they they do want get do

449
00:16:41,030 --> 00:16:40,639
want to get attention from the living

450
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and

451
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uh you know that's what people are

452
00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:45,600
experiencing a lot of time when they're

453
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being touched or hearing noises and such

454
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and uh

455
00:16:56,069 --> 00:16:53,120
you know i i hear people with all kinds

456
00:16:59,350 --> 00:16:56,079
of excuses as to why they think

457
00:17:02,470 --> 00:16:59,360
that these spirits do what they do

458
00:17:03,749 --> 00:17:02,480
but i i'm pretty convinced that it has a

459
00:17:06,230 --> 00:17:03,759
lot to do with just

460
00:17:06,949 --> 00:17:06,240
letting people know that they're there

461
00:17:09,350 --> 00:17:06,959
oh yeah

462
00:17:11,829 --> 00:17:09,360
i believe they have us that's why

463
00:17:14,150 --> 00:17:11,839
they're still here and they will tell

464
00:17:14,949 --> 00:17:14,160
anybody who's going to listen to them so

465
00:17:17,429 --> 00:17:14,959
we need to stop

466
00:17:19,429 --> 00:17:17,439
yelling at them and actually listen to

467
00:17:22,549 --> 00:17:19,439
them

468
00:17:26,069 --> 00:17:22,559
so what is the uh

469
00:17:28,069 --> 00:17:26,079
the most haunted location that you've

470
00:17:31,110 --> 00:17:28,079
ever been to

471
00:17:31,590 --> 00:17:31,120
been to quite a few one of my favorites

472
00:17:34,789 --> 00:17:31,600
that is

473
00:17:37,190 --> 00:17:34,799
notoriously haunted everybody talks

474
00:17:38,789 --> 00:17:37,200
about it is bobby mackeys

475
00:17:40,950 --> 00:17:38,799
and that's the and i go into these

476
00:17:43,590 --> 00:17:40,960
places you hear the stories

477
00:17:44,630 --> 00:17:43,600
you watch the tv shows but i go in with

478
00:17:46,789 --> 00:17:44,640
an open mind

479
00:17:48,070 --> 00:17:46,799
and i think more people need to do that

480
00:17:50,230 --> 00:17:48,080
so you get

481
00:17:53,029 --> 00:17:50,240
the stories that those spirits that

482
00:17:56,070 --> 00:17:53,039
night or whenever it is you were there

483
00:17:58,310 --> 00:17:56,080
want to tell you i didn't run into a

484
00:18:00,070 --> 00:17:58,320
single demon when i was at bobby

485
00:18:01,350 --> 00:18:00,080
mackey's i went into the basement

486
00:18:04,390 --> 00:18:01,360
blindfolded

487
00:18:07,590 --> 00:18:04,400
felt nothing negative and like i said i

488
00:18:11,350 --> 00:18:07,600
i am an empath i do feel energies i

489
00:18:13,750 --> 00:18:11,360
was i on edge yes absolutely yes because

490
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i had seen the shows and i had heard the

491
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stories

492
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but it's it's not

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what people say it is at least it wasn't

494
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for me

495
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i i like i like you in my introduction i

496
00:18:27,430 --> 00:18:26,000
go into these places and i tell the

497
00:18:29,750 --> 00:18:27,440
spirits

498
00:18:31,510 --> 00:18:29,760
straight up guys i'm here out of love

499
00:18:32,870 --> 00:18:31,520
like peace and positivity i'm not here

500
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to hurt you harm you

501
00:18:39,990 --> 00:18:36,320
or take you away i'm only here to hear

502
00:18:42,230 --> 00:18:40,000
your story and that's what i get

503
00:18:43,110 --> 00:18:42,240
in return you know some of these people

504
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go in

505
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and and they're all amped up i'm coming

506
00:18:50,310 --> 00:18:48,000
looking for demons and

507
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and their whatever activity they get

508
00:18:54,310 --> 00:18:51,600
they're gonna think it's

509
00:18:56,310 --> 00:18:54,320
exactly what they're looking for but

510
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like i said i go in with an open mind

511
00:19:01,270 --> 00:18:58,559
i'm willing to listen to any story some

512
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of my favorite places to investigate

513
00:19:04,870 --> 00:19:02,799
are locations that's never been

514
00:19:08,710 --> 00:19:04,880
investigated before because there's no

515
00:19:10,070 --> 00:19:08,720
legends or lore or made-up stories about

516
00:19:13,510 --> 00:19:10,080
things that didn't even happen

517
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there good and i treat waverly and bobby

518
00:19:19,270 --> 00:19:14,640
mackeys and

519
00:19:24,470 --> 00:19:23,029
yeah it's um you know it's interesting

520
00:19:26,070 --> 00:19:24,480
the um

521
00:19:28,630 --> 00:19:26,080
you know you talk about bobby mack he's

522
00:19:32,870 --> 00:19:28,640
got a reputation for having

523
00:19:35,669 --> 00:19:32,880
these malevolent uh energies there

524
00:19:37,990 --> 00:19:35,679
uh you know i don't necessarily believe

525
00:19:41,350 --> 00:19:38,000
in what people refer to as demons

526
00:19:41,830 --> 00:19:41,360
i mean evil is evil in my opinion and uh

527
00:19:45,750 --> 00:19:41,840
you know

528
00:19:47,750 --> 00:19:45,760
i i think a lot of

529
00:19:48,870 --> 00:19:47,760
a lot of these energies these entities

530
00:19:50,870 --> 00:19:48,880
can sense

531
00:19:52,950 --> 00:19:50,880
the way a person actually is a living

532
00:19:55,990 --> 00:19:52,960
person and i think they

533
00:19:58,390 --> 00:19:56,000
will react to them in the way

534
00:19:59,510 --> 00:19:58,400
that they feel is appropriate to react

535
00:20:02,230 --> 00:19:59,520
to them

536
00:20:03,830 --> 00:20:02,240
and i i and you talk about bobby magaz

537
00:20:06,390 --> 00:20:03,840
i've seen where people have gone in

538
00:20:09,990 --> 00:20:06,400
there and having some real adverse

539
00:20:12,230 --> 00:20:10,000
reactions and uh yeah and i think that

540
00:20:15,270 --> 00:20:12,240
happens everywhere

541
00:20:16,390 --> 00:20:15,280
yeah you it what you get out of an

542
00:20:22,070 --> 00:20:16,400
investigation

543
00:20:22,870 --> 00:20:22,080
and like i said if you walk in thinking

544
00:20:27,350 --> 00:20:22,880
you're gonna find

545
00:20:30,789 --> 00:20:27,360
demons no matter what evidence you get

546
00:20:32,870 --> 00:20:30,799
you can twist it and manipulate it so

547
00:20:33,990 --> 00:20:32,880
you can be like well this is exactly

548
00:20:36,070 --> 00:20:34,000
what i came for this

549
00:20:39,430 --> 00:20:36,080
place is crawling with demons or

550
00:20:42,149 --> 00:20:39,440
malevolency or whatever the case may be

551
00:20:43,430 --> 00:20:42,159
and i think that's what happens at a lot

552
00:20:46,950 --> 00:20:43,440
of these places that are

553
00:20:49,029 --> 00:20:46,960
known for the darker energies yeah yeah

554
00:20:51,270 --> 00:20:49,039
yeah i mean i it there was a time when i

555
00:20:53,590 --> 00:20:51,280
used to go at the locations

556
00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:53,600
and and look for spirits look for ghosts

557
00:20:57,830 --> 00:20:54,480
look for some

558
00:20:59,909 --> 00:20:57,840
type of paranormal activity i mean

559
00:21:02,230 --> 00:20:59,919
over the past 20 years that's nothing

560
00:21:04,149 --> 00:21:02,240
what i do now i

561
00:21:05,510 --> 00:21:04,159
i basically try to help people and try

562
00:21:08,710 --> 00:21:05,520
to explain to

563
00:21:11,669 --> 00:21:08,720
explain what's going on with them uh

564
00:21:13,110 --> 00:21:11,679
i remove viewer i use a lot of other

565
00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:13,120
tools

566
00:21:18,789 --> 00:21:16,400
and uh you know it's um it's more about

567
00:21:19,830 --> 00:21:18,799
helping the living to understand more so

568
00:21:21,669 --> 00:21:19,840
than anything else

569
00:21:22,950 --> 00:21:21,679
you know i don't really want to go into

570
00:21:26,549 --> 00:21:22,960
somewhere and find

571
00:21:27,830 --> 00:21:26,559
spirits or find this type of stuff i

572
00:21:30,870 --> 00:21:27,840
mean you know

573
00:21:33,190 --> 00:21:30,880
i i just i just do it to kind of answer

574
00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:33,200
questions for the living

575
00:21:37,350 --> 00:21:35,280
yeah and that's where i'm at now too i

576
00:21:39,750 --> 00:21:37,360
mean i i've been there i've done that

577
00:21:41,990 --> 00:21:39,760
i've been to these places where you

578
00:21:44,230 --> 00:21:42,000
get to lock down for a night and you're

579
00:21:45,990 --> 00:21:44,240
lucky if you have heat first and

580
00:21:49,029 --> 00:21:46,000
foremost over that

581
00:21:51,190 --> 00:21:49,039
um but this is this i think this might

582
00:21:53,510 --> 00:21:51,200
be my calling right now as

583
00:21:55,750 --> 00:21:53,520
the exact same thing is is helping

584
00:21:56,310 --> 00:21:55,760
people understand what they're going

585
00:21:59,830 --> 00:21:56,320
through

586
00:22:03,029 --> 00:21:59,840
and that it's it's not always

587
00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:03,039
it's nine times nine point nine nine

588
00:22:08,390 --> 00:22:06,000
seven times out of ten it's not

589
00:22:10,230 --> 00:22:08,400
something scary it's just

590
00:22:12,470 --> 00:22:10,240
something trying to communicate with

591
00:22:14,230 --> 00:22:12,480
them exactly right

592
00:22:15,669 --> 00:22:14,240
you know i i've worked with actually

593
00:22:17,110 --> 00:22:15,679
i've worked with a lot of families with

594
00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:17,120
kids too

595
00:22:20,710 --> 00:22:20,000
and uh you know a lot of times you know

596
00:22:23,350 --> 00:22:20,720
until these

597
00:22:25,029 --> 00:22:23,360
the children are uh their minds are

598
00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:25,039
polluted by the outside

599
00:22:29,190 --> 00:22:27,600
world they come into this world very

600
00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:29,200
innocent and they see a lot of different

601
00:22:34,390 --> 00:22:31,360
things that they don't understand

602
00:22:36,630 --> 00:22:34,400
and many times it turns out that

603
00:22:37,750 --> 00:22:36,640
they're either an empath or they are

604
00:22:40,549 --> 00:22:37,760
actually

605
00:22:41,909 --> 00:22:40,559
a young medium or someone who will

606
00:22:44,950 --> 00:22:41,919
eventually

607
00:22:47,830 --> 00:22:44,960
either become a full-blown medium

608
00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:47,840
or you know it'll kind of wane off it

609
00:22:51,750 --> 00:22:49,200
just depends

610
00:22:53,110 --> 00:22:51,760
and i try and i do help with the parents

611
00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:53,120
to try to explain to

612
00:22:56,710 --> 00:22:55,200
the kids what's going on and that's a

613
00:22:59,830 --> 00:22:56,720
lot of what i have done

614
00:23:01,270 --> 00:22:59,840
in recent years it's um i don't know why

615
00:23:04,149 --> 00:23:01,280
it's worked out that way

616
00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:04,159
but that's the way it has been so uh

617
00:23:06,470 --> 00:23:04,559
yeah

618
00:23:08,230 --> 00:23:06,480
that's somewhat satisfying i don't do it

619
00:23:11,909 --> 00:23:08,240
as much i used to

620
00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:11,919
but uh yeah it's uh i have done a lot of

621
00:23:15,750 --> 00:23:12,240
that

622
00:23:17,190 --> 00:23:15,760
in recent years yeah it's it's so much

623
00:23:19,830 --> 00:23:17,200
more rewarding

624
00:23:21,430 --> 00:23:19,840
yeah i actually went and hung out at a

625
00:23:22,070 --> 00:23:21,440
friend's house who was trying to contact

626
00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:22,080
her mom

627
00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:26,320
the house she had a touch lamp that was

628
00:23:32,230 --> 00:23:28,960
going off and on with commands and

629
00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:32,240
answering questions for her and i went

630
00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:33,360
back a second

631
00:23:39,510 --> 00:23:36,960
time and her dad came through

632
00:23:41,669 --> 00:23:39,520
and you know they had a tumultuous

633
00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:41,679
relationship while he was alive and and

634
00:23:45,110 --> 00:23:42,000
we

635
00:23:47,430 --> 00:23:45,120
couldn't understand at first why

636
00:23:48,950 --> 00:23:47,440
he right he kept saying he was sorry and

637
00:23:51,350 --> 00:23:48,960
that he was ashamed

638
00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:51,360
until he finally said his name and his

639
00:23:55,190 --> 00:23:52,240
name was phil

640
00:23:57,830 --> 00:23:55,200
and my friend's like oh that's my dad

641
00:23:59,990 --> 00:23:57,840
this all makes so much sense

642
00:24:00,870 --> 00:24:00,000
and while while her mom and her

643
00:24:03,909 --> 00:24:00,880
grandmother

644
00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:03,919
were there as well i think they brought

645
00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:04,320
me

646
00:24:11,190 --> 00:24:07,760
there so that her father was able to

647
00:24:14,310 --> 00:24:11,200
make this apology it was actually

648
00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:14,320
beautiful absolutely beautiful when

649
00:24:17,430 --> 00:24:16,400
he came over on the spirit box and said

650
00:24:19,190 --> 00:24:17,440
love you girl

651
00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:19,200
i had to get up because i was about to

652
00:24:26,390 --> 00:24:24,470
yeah it's uh you know it kind of affects

653
00:24:29,909 --> 00:24:26,400
all those different ways but it is

654
00:24:31,830 --> 00:24:29,919
uh you know it if

655
00:24:32,950 --> 00:24:31,840
somebody like me was bored basically

656
00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:32,960
born into it

657
00:24:37,350 --> 00:24:35,120
you know my parents never really had any

658
00:24:40,390 --> 00:24:37,360
idea what was going on with me

659
00:24:42,149 --> 00:24:40,400
and uh oh yeah i mean i i never said

660
00:24:45,269 --> 00:24:42,159
anything to about it

661
00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:45,279
um you know i really had no reason to

662
00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:46,799
and i guess they wondered why i was

663
00:24:52,149 --> 00:24:48,720
going to gettysburg all the time

664
00:24:54,470 --> 00:24:52,159
but other than that uh you know

665
00:24:56,710 --> 00:24:54,480
because i was really curious about the

666
00:25:00,230 --> 00:24:56,720
spirit world and uh

667
00:25:01,190 --> 00:25:00,240
when i had a very profound incident

668
00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:01,200
happened

669
00:25:04,950 --> 00:25:03,840
on one day when i was nine on the

670
00:25:06,950 --> 00:25:04,960
battlefield i

671
00:25:08,310 --> 00:25:06,960
you know i was kind of hooked then but

672
00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:08,320
then i then it

673
00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:11,600
got to that point where i wanted to

674
00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:14,640
where i wanted to just to learn what was

675
00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:15,840
really going on

676
00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:19,520
and you know eventually as i got older i

677
00:25:23,110 --> 00:25:21,440
kind of had my own idea what i thought

678
00:25:26,390 --> 00:25:23,120
was going on you know

679
00:25:29,110 --> 00:25:26,400
and it's a progression you you talk to a

680
00:25:31,510 --> 00:25:29,120
lot of people and um

681
00:25:33,510 --> 00:25:31,520
but you know when you get to my age i

682
00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:33,520
guess then you kind of got a sense of

683
00:25:38,470 --> 00:25:34,960
what really is

684
00:25:42,149 --> 00:25:40,310
that's where that's where you're left at

685
00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:42,159
i mean i don't know how much more that

686
00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:45,360
that i'm gonna do but uh uh i don't

687
00:25:48,789 --> 00:25:46,960
think i'm ever gonna write a book about

688
00:25:50,230 --> 00:25:48,799
it that people have told me to do that

689
00:25:54,310 --> 00:25:50,240
but i don't think i'm gonna write a book

690
00:26:01,430 --> 00:25:57,430
so funny story my very first ghost

691
00:26:03,269 --> 00:26:01,440
anything um was in gettysburg i didn't

692
00:26:03,669 --> 00:26:03,279
see anything but it was like my very

693
00:26:05,909 --> 00:26:03,679
first

694
00:26:07,510 --> 00:26:05,919
ghost tour where they walk you around

695
00:26:09,190 --> 00:26:07,520
the jenny wade house

696
00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:09,200
and you go in the other house across the

697
00:26:13,269 --> 00:26:11,279
street in the basement

698
00:26:14,870 --> 00:26:13,279
and i was there for at a horror

699
00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:14,880
convention my husband and i

700
00:26:18,070 --> 00:26:17,520
our day job well used to be till covet

701
00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:18,080
hit

702
00:26:24,390 --> 00:26:21,679
was we do photo ops for fan conventions

703
00:26:24,870 --> 00:26:24,400
so my very first ghost to anything i had

704
00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:24,880
doug

705
00:26:28,549 --> 00:26:27,360
bradley there he plays pinhead in

706
00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:28,559
hellraiser

707
00:26:34,870 --> 00:26:31,760
um scout compton taylor was there she

708
00:26:37,750 --> 00:26:34,880
was in the uh rob zombie

709
00:26:38,710 --> 00:26:37,760
michael myers movies and a couple other

710
00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:38,720
horror people

711
00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:41,520
as well and so that's kind of always

712
00:26:43,590 --> 00:26:42,880
sticks in my head that it was kind of

713
00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:43,600
cool that

714
00:26:47,669 --> 00:26:45,520
i mean i didn't see anything i didn't

715
00:26:50,789 --> 00:26:47,679
feel anything and i was i terrified

716
00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:50,799
oh yeah absolutely but

717
00:26:56,950 --> 00:26:53,200
i did do a ghost tour in gettysburg and

718
00:26:59,110 --> 00:26:56,960
it's a beautiful town i love it there

719
00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:59,120
yeah i mean it's you know when people go

720
00:27:01,510 --> 00:27:01,200
to gettysburg not everybody realizes

721
00:27:03,669 --> 00:27:01,520
that

722
00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:03,679
it you know this energy is everywhere

723
00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:04,559
around there i mean

724
00:27:11,269 --> 00:27:07,600
it's it's so imprinted

725
00:27:13,029 --> 00:27:11,279
with spirit energy and uh a lot of what

726
00:27:13,990 --> 00:27:13,039
happened during those three days of the

727
00:27:16,789 --> 00:27:14,000
battle

728
00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:16,799
it uh you know you can find it anywhere

729
00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:18,320
now

730
00:27:21,750 --> 00:27:21,200
i i kind of have my favorite places uh

731
00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:21,760
and it's

732
00:27:25,750 --> 00:27:24,640
i'm not on the my the places i go to and

733
00:27:27,510 --> 00:27:25,760
where i

734
00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:27,520
kind of hang out once around because i

735
00:27:31,110 --> 00:27:29,200
still do it i i will actually

736
00:27:32,389 --> 00:27:31,120
actually drive down the road here

737
00:27:35,110 --> 00:27:32,399
because i only live

738
00:27:35,510 --> 00:27:35,120
about 10 miles in gettysburg and i will

739
00:27:38,389 --> 00:27:35,520
go

740
00:27:39,750 --> 00:27:38,399
uh to certain locations that i've always

741
00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:39,760
gone to

742
00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:42,960
and that's where i hang out and uh

743
00:27:46,070 --> 00:27:45,760
you know it's not like like i said with

744
00:27:51,190 --> 00:27:46,080
the

745
00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:51,200
house or

746
00:27:57,029 --> 00:27:54,399
devil's den or you know some place uh

747
00:27:58,230 --> 00:27:57,039
you know the taverns foreign and you

748
00:27:59,029 --> 00:27:58,240
know some other places along the

749
00:28:02,470 --> 00:27:59,039
battlefield

750
00:28:05,110 --> 00:28:02,480
but i tell you i mean uh i have heard

751
00:28:07,909 --> 00:28:05,120
seen and experienced so much out there

752
00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:07,919
it's uh it's remarkable

753
00:28:13,590 --> 00:28:11,360
oh i absolutely i'm sure of it i

754
00:28:16,070 --> 00:28:13,600
i'm not a big fan of investigating

755
00:28:17,669 --> 00:28:16,080
outdoors because people scare me

756
00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:17,679
more than ghosts that's why i'd rather

757
00:28:22,149 --> 00:28:19,360
talk to dead people

758
00:28:23,029 --> 00:28:22,159
um but i think the battlefield at

759
00:28:26,710 --> 00:28:23,039
gettysburg

760
00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:26,720
is probably in my top ten just you know

761
00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:29,760
i i recently so i don't know if you saw

762
00:28:32,230 --> 00:28:30,240
this

763
00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:32,240
but on facebook there's a video going

764
00:28:35,909 --> 00:28:34,000
around of somebody in a

765
00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:35,919
who has a tesla you know how you've got

766
00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:38,080
that big screen inside the car

767
00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:41,679
and it pops up when cars are passing you

768
00:28:45,029 --> 00:28:43,600
and things like this on this big tablet

769
00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:45,039
that's in your car

770
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:47,039
well somebody was sitting at a gr in a

771
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:50,080
graveyard broad daylight

772
00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:53,200
nobody around the car but the tesla

773
00:28:57,269 --> 00:28:56,080
you know 360 cameras on it were picking

774
00:29:00,789 --> 00:28:57,279
up a person

775
00:29:02,789 --> 00:29:00,799
standing next to the car so talk about

776
00:29:04,549 --> 00:29:02,799
the ultimate ghost hunting equipment for

777
00:29:05,909 --> 00:29:04,559
somebody who doesn't like to investigate

778
00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:05,919
outside

779
00:29:10,470 --> 00:29:08,240
so i recently got a tesla i call her

780
00:29:13,590 --> 00:29:10,480
morticia morticia and i

781
00:29:14,149 --> 00:29:13,600
should head out to gettysburg and ghost

782
00:29:17,430 --> 00:29:14,159
hunt

783
00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:17,440
from the car yeah i

784
00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:20,880
i that you know that battlefield is one

785
00:29:26,310 --> 00:29:21,360
of

786
00:29:29,909 --> 00:29:26,320
stuff while they're driving

787
00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:29,919
uh you know i think that's a main reason

788
00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:30,480
why

789
00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:34,480
so many uh so many entities are

790
00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:37,840
actually photographed more there than

791
00:29:42,789 --> 00:29:40,480
most other places um

792
00:29:45,110 --> 00:29:42,799
i i don't know if their intelligence

793
00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:45,120
spirits i think for the most part

794
00:29:49,269 --> 00:29:47,360
what people see are just imprinted or

795
00:29:51,269 --> 00:29:49,279
residual energies

796
00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:51,279
uh you know there was one going around

797
00:29:55,990 --> 00:29:52,960
recently about

798
00:29:58,470 --> 00:29:56,000
this um this confederate soldier

799
00:30:00,549 --> 00:29:58,480
that kept showing up around a pair of

800
00:30:01,269 --> 00:30:00,559
cannons and that was on the uh that was

801
00:30:04,310 --> 00:30:01,279
on the

802
00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:04,320
west side of the battlefield uh

803
00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:06,320
it was funny i kind of had to laugh at

804
00:30:10,789 --> 00:30:08,320
it because when it first came up

805
00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:10,799
you know people are showing it and all

806
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:11,360
and

807
00:30:15,269 --> 00:30:13,760
aspired about this i was kind of

808
00:30:16,470 --> 00:30:15,279
laughing and talking other people saying

809
00:30:20,470 --> 00:30:16,480
you know i've seen that thing

810
00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:20,480
several times over the last 25 30 years

811
00:30:27,669 --> 00:30:24,000
and you know i i actually found an of

812
00:30:30,149 --> 00:30:27,679
a video from about 15 years ago where

813
00:30:32,710 --> 00:30:30,159
the same thing was actually

814
00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:32,720
actually caught so uh it's a residual

815
00:30:36,070 --> 00:30:33,760
energy

816
00:30:37,830 --> 00:30:36,080
but uh sometimes you see it more than

817
00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:37,840
you do other times

818
00:30:44,710 --> 00:30:40,320
yeah you and he go way back you guys are

819
00:30:47,909 --> 00:30:46,549
yeah i think the new york post posted

820
00:30:50,230 --> 00:30:47,919
that around halloween

821
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:50,240
if i remember right right yeah something

822
00:30:53,590 --> 00:30:51,360
like that

823
00:30:55,110 --> 00:30:53,600
you know it's funny because i there have

824
00:30:57,190 --> 00:30:55,120
there have been times when i'd be out

825
00:31:00,630 --> 00:30:57,200
there in the battlefield

826
00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:00,640
and uh you know i occasionally

827
00:31:05,909 --> 00:31:03,519
get to talk to some of the rangers well

828
00:31:07,750 --> 00:31:05,919
before this cover thing but uh you know

829
00:31:10,389 --> 00:31:07,760
i would talk to the ranger and there was

830
00:31:13,509 --> 00:31:10,399
one time i and i i love the story

831
00:31:15,509 --> 00:31:13,519
i was over by the um i was over about a

832
00:31:17,509 --> 00:31:15,519
little round top and

833
00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:17,519
the range one of the ranges was there

834
00:31:22,149 --> 00:31:19,760
and i was talking to him

835
00:31:23,350 --> 00:31:22,159
and i was i asked him i said well you

836
00:31:25,190 --> 00:31:23,360
know i you know i

837
00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:25,200
he knew who i was i mean he knew i was

838
00:31:29,669 --> 00:31:26,640
out there all the time

839
00:31:31,110 --> 00:31:29,679
just you know nosing around and he

840
00:31:33,430 --> 00:31:31,120
he said you know something happened the

841
00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:33,440
other day i was uh

842
00:31:40,630 --> 00:31:37,039
i was down by a devil's den and

843
00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:40,640
uh some of the people that were visiting

844
00:31:43,669 --> 00:31:42,000
and i think he said they were from

845
00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:43,679
mississippi but anyway

846
00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:47,200
he said that uh they came up to me and

847
00:31:51,509 --> 00:31:48,320
asked

848
00:31:55,509 --> 00:31:51,519
well why wasn't the reenactor

849
00:31:58,870 --> 00:31:55,519
a reenaction react you know a reenacting

850
00:32:01,909 --> 00:31:58,880
uh scenario mentioned

851
00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:01,919
you know you know something was going on

852
00:32:05,830 --> 00:32:03,760
and he looked at me said well there

853
00:32:08,710 --> 00:32:05,840
wasn't you know we have no

854
00:32:09,029 --> 00:32:08,720
reenactors on the battlefield and you

855
00:32:12,389 --> 00:32:09,039
know

856
00:32:13,830 --> 00:32:12,399
well i was

857
00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:13,840
over there but devil's den they were

858
00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:15,600
there by the steps

859
00:32:23,990 --> 00:32:20,640
and i was talking to a reenactor

860
00:32:25,269 --> 00:32:24,000
oh yeah and she said it was it was a

861
00:32:29,590 --> 00:32:25,279
union soldier

862
00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:29,600
she was actually conferring with it

863
00:32:34,230 --> 00:32:31,760
so i don't know what the hell that was

864
00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:34,240
all about but you know i'm jealous

865
00:32:39,430 --> 00:32:37,200
yeah and you hear that a lot you hear

866
00:32:42,149 --> 00:32:39,440
you hear people talk about

867
00:32:43,110 --> 00:32:42,159
seeing uh formations of soldier marching

868
00:32:49,830 --> 00:32:43,120
through

869
00:32:51,509 --> 00:32:49,840
um you know something similar to similar

870
00:32:55,830 --> 00:32:51,519
type of activity

871
00:32:57,750 --> 00:32:55,840
uh but uh yeah so there i mean there is

872
00:32:59,430 --> 00:32:57,760
there is spirit activity intelligence

873
00:33:02,950 --> 00:32:59,440
spirit activity

874
00:33:04,630 --> 00:33:02,960
that i don't know if if if

875
00:33:06,149 --> 00:33:04,640
whatever reason this thing is able to

876
00:33:09,430 --> 00:33:06,159
communicate with a human

877
00:33:10,230 --> 00:33:09,440
i mean a living person uh why that

878
00:33:12,149 --> 00:33:10,240
happens

879
00:33:13,669 --> 00:33:12,159
you know i haven't really quite figured

880
00:33:15,909 --> 00:33:13,679
that out yet

881
00:33:17,110 --> 00:33:15,919
well and why didn't it look so real to

882
00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:17,120
where the

883
00:33:20,710 --> 00:33:19,760
she was talking to like every ghost i've

884
00:33:22,549 --> 00:33:20,720
seen

885
00:33:25,350 --> 00:33:22,559
is either like partially see-through or

886
00:33:28,149 --> 00:33:25,360
more of a glowing light

887
00:33:29,269 --> 00:33:28,159
for whatever reason some of some of the

888
00:33:31,509 --> 00:33:29,279
the full

889
00:33:32,310 --> 00:33:31,519
uh body apparitions that people have

890
00:33:34,070 --> 00:33:32,320
seen

891
00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:34,080
out there are actually actually look

892
00:33:39,669 --> 00:33:36,080
like they're real

893
00:33:40,789 --> 00:33:39,679
yeah i mean yeah i mean it's pretty it's

894
00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:40,799
pretty wild

895
00:33:44,549 --> 00:33:43,760
now i i can't see that i have seen that

896
00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:44,559
i mean i

897
00:33:48,870 --> 00:33:46,799
there there was an apparition that i'm

898
00:33:50,230 --> 00:33:48,880
very familiar with that i've seen five

899
00:33:52,230 --> 00:33:50,240
or six times

900
00:33:53,350 --> 00:33:52,240
was at an area called spangler spring

901
00:33:54,549 --> 00:33:53,360
which is on the east side of the

902
00:33:58,149 --> 00:33:54,559
battlefield just

903
00:33:58,870 --> 00:33:58,159
just above culps hill and there's a

904
00:34:03,590 --> 00:33:58,880
female

905
00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:03,600
white that actually floats down from one

906
00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:05,200
of the hillsides

907
00:34:10,470 --> 00:34:08,639
by the spenger spring and moves across

908
00:34:11,829 --> 00:34:10,480
the road

909
00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:11,839
i mean it was funny because i used to

910
00:34:14,790 --> 00:34:14,240
take friends that i used to go to school

911
00:34:16,310 --> 00:34:14,800
with

912
00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:16,320
we'd sit out there and watch this thing

913
00:34:20,149 --> 00:34:18,800
i mean i had people i had a girlfriend i

914
00:34:21,909 --> 00:34:20,159
took out the one time she

915
00:34:24,550 --> 00:34:21,919
literally freaked out on me i mean she

916
00:34:24,869 --> 00:34:24,560
got around a very romantic line yeah

917
00:34:27,909 --> 00:34:24,879
well

918
00:34:30,629 --> 00:34:27,919
yeah i

919
00:34:31,829 --> 00:34:30,639
warned her but she uh she took off down

920
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:31,839
the road i had to go

921
00:34:37,030 --> 00:34:34,960
pick her up but yeah i i guess

922
00:34:38,069 --> 00:34:37,040
maybe she didn't believe me but yeah

923
00:34:43,829 --> 00:34:38,079
yeah

924
00:34:46,069 --> 00:34:43,839
have you investigated anywhere other

925
00:34:49,510 --> 00:34:46,079
than gettysburg or is that just your

926
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:49,520
jam because it's so close well

927
00:34:54,470 --> 00:34:51,599
i used when i was younger i used to

928
00:34:56,869 --> 00:34:54,480
investigate a lot of locations

929
00:34:58,870 --> 00:34:56,879
uh where you know what people would

930
00:34:59,270 --> 00:34:58,880
contact me and you know back then when i

931
00:35:01,670 --> 00:34:59,280
was

932
00:35:03,109 --> 00:35:01,680
started doing it i mean paranormal

933
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:03,119
investigator you tell somebody you're a

934
00:35:05,589 --> 00:35:04,560
paranormal investigator they look like

935
00:35:07,990 --> 00:35:05,599
you're a nut

936
00:35:10,470 --> 00:35:08,000
i mean this is not they still do yeah

937
00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:10,480
this was back in the late 70s

938
00:35:14,390 --> 00:35:13,200
and uh you know it was kind of a word of

939
00:35:16,310 --> 00:35:14,400
mouth thing

940
00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:16,320
i had just gotten out of high school and

941
00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:17,760
you know and people were

942
00:35:20,790 --> 00:35:20,240
would contact me through word of mouth

943
00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:20,800
you know

944
00:35:26,470 --> 00:35:23,920
know something's

945
00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:26,480
you know can you come look and you know

946
00:35:29,190 --> 00:35:27,520
that's what i would do

947
00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:29,200
you know and i would you know that would

948
00:35:32,870 --> 00:35:30,560
try to explain to them

949
00:35:34,390 --> 00:35:32,880
what's really going on maybe get some

950
00:35:36,390 --> 00:35:34,400
answers for them

951
00:35:37,829 --> 00:35:36,400
but as time is going on you know it's

952
00:35:39,510 --> 00:35:37,839
kind of you know it's kind of becoming a

953
00:35:41,589 --> 00:35:39,520
good thing now but

954
00:35:43,910 --> 00:35:41,599
you know i don't know i don't normally

955
00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:43,920
go into just locations to look for

956
00:35:47,109 --> 00:35:45,599
ghosts i mean i just don't do that

957
00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:47,119
anymore

958
00:35:50,550 --> 00:35:48,880
you know i don't fault anybody for doing

959
00:35:51,990 --> 00:35:50,560
it because believe me i i have a lot of

960
00:35:53,589 --> 00:35:52,000
friends that do it

961
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:53,599
but it's just something that kind of

962
00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:55,520
doesn't uh

963
00:36:00,870 --> 00:35:58,800
float my boat anymore yeah

964
00:36:03,589 --> 00:36:00,880
absolutely it's it's an adrenaline

965
00:36:06,870 --> 00:36:03,599
adrenaline rush for sure

966
00:36:10,069 --> 00:36:06,880
and i would not take back a second of it

967
00:36:12,230 --> 00:36:10,079
i'm just i think i'm at the point so as

968
00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:12,240
i was writing this book the oddity files

969
00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:13,200
crew which is

970
00:36:16,230 --> 00:36:15,119
the tv show that's out we kind of the

971
00:36:18,950 --> 00:36:16,240
band broke up

972
00:36:19,829 --> 00:36:18,960
one of us moved out to the west coast

973
00:36:23,190 --> 00:36:19,839
and my son

974
00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:23,200
you know decided mom i'm done you know i

975
00:36:27,430 --> 00:36:25,200
i just don't want to do it anymore which

976
00:36:29,750 --> 00:36:27,440
i get i totally get so

977
00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:29,760
i think that was part of why i've

978
00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:30,480
decided that

979
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:33,520
i want to help people out um

980
00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:36,480
it's it's much more interesting much

981
00:36:41,349 --> 00:36:38,560
more satisfying

982
00:36:43,190 --> 00:36:41,359
and especially because so far you know

983
00:36:44,950 --> 00:36:43,200
it's pretty much been friends or friends

984
00:36:46,390 --> 00:36:44,960
of friends that i've been

985
00:36:48,550 --> 00:36:46,400
over to their house and kind of looked

986
00:36:50,470 --> 00:36:48,560
into things for them but

987
00:36:52,790 --> 00:36:50,480
you know aside from having you know an

988
00:36:53,829 --> 00:36:52,800
absolutely working bathroom and heat and

989
00:36:56,550 --> 00:36:53,839
air conditioning

990
00:36:56,950 --> 00:36:56,560
it's just it's more of a chill it's

991
00:36:59,910 --> 00:36:56,960
because

992
00:37:00,470 --> 00:36:59,920
you know you get waverly for a night and

993
00:37:02,790 --> 00:37:00,480
you've got

994
00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:02,800
x amount of hours and you're rushing to

995
00:37:07,030 --> 00:37:04,640
make sure you get every

996
00:37:09,190 --> 00:37:07,040
location in that building you want to

997
00:37:11,510 --> 00:37:09,200
and you're never going to do it

998
00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:11,520
bobby mackey's we had for five hours and

999
00:37:16,950 --> 00:37:12,960
we still didn't hit

1000
00:37:20,390 --> 00:37:16,960
every inch of the location so

1001
00:37:22,390 --> 00:37:20,400
the the rush that specific rush that's

1002
00:37:24,790 --> 00:37:22,400
actually the physic physical

1003
00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:24,800
rush of it rushing around like a maniac

1004
00:37:28,950 --> 00:37:25,920
i don't miss

1005
00:37:31,030 --> 00:37:28,960
at all but you know when people

1006
00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:31,040
need help and they need to understand

1007
00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:32,160
why this is going

1008
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:35,520
on that's my jam right now so

1009
00:37:40,310 --> 00:37:37,440
i think we're on the same page one

1010
00:37:43,510 --> 00:37:40,320
million percent

1011
00:37:45,190 --> 00:37:43,520
yeah you know i i i'm at the point now

1012
00:37:47,750 --> 00:37:45,200
there's just certain places i can't go

1013
00:37:48,950 --> 00:37:47,760
because the energy just bothers me so

1014
00:37:51,349 --> 00:37:48,960
much

1015
00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:51,359
seriously i mean i'll go to a funeral

1016
00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:52,800
i'll go to a funeral home or

1017
00:37:57,030 --> 00:37:56,320
out in the cemetery it's it's nerve

1018
00:37:59,349 --> 00:37:57,040
wracking

1019
00:38:00,069 --> 00:37:59,359
i mean i i can sense this stuff all

1020
00:38:01,589 --> 00:38:00,079
around me

1021
00:38:04,390 --> 00:38:01,599
it just drives me crazy you know it's

1022
00:38:05,829 --> 00:38:04,400
almost like even going into an antique

1023
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:05,839
store

1024
00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:09,599
oh the empty garage though yeah the

1025
00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:12,800
the imprints on in an antique store

1026
00:38:17,109 --> 00:38:15,680
is pretty bad sometimes i mean i don't

1027
00:38:18,310 --> 00:38:17,119
know what it is

1028
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:18,320
if it's you know you got all these

1029
00:38:21,990 --> 00:38:20,079
antiques they've been through a lot i

1030
00:38:23,829 --> 00:38:22,000
mean a lot of people have

1031
00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:23,839
you know touched these things have lived

1032
00:38:28,950 --> 00:38:25,760
with these things and

1033
00:38:31,349 --> 00:38:28,960
that energy is still palpable on these

1034
00:38:32,710 --> 00:38:31,359
objects but i tell you i use you know

1035
00:38:34,310 --> 00:38:32,720
when i was younger i used to get a lot

1036
00:38:35,109 --> 00:38:34,320
of antique store i used to do a lot of

1037
00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:35,119
antiquing

1038
00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:37,760
used to go to a lot of uh auctions and

1039
00:38:40,710 --> 00:38:38,880
such

1040
00:38:42,390 --> 00:38:40,720
i wouldn't think about doing it anymore

1041
00:38:44,550 --> 00:38:42,400
because it drives me crazy

1042
00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:44,560
it really does i just can't i can't

1043
00:38:49,349 --> 00:38:45,760
stand it

1044
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:49,359
you know so now i and and now now where

1045
00:38:52,150 --> 00:38:50,640
i'm living i'm living right beside a

1046
00:38:56,950 --> 00:38:52,160
cemetery so you know figure

1047
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:09,829
i think i lost your sound okay

1048
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:11,990
yeah i'm having trouble hearing her now

1049
00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:14,480
i'm not hearing her at all

1050
00:39:20,069 --> 00:39:18,160
can you hear me can you still hear me

1051
00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:20,079
yeah i don't know what's going on with

1052
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,910
i love gotta love technology

1053
00:39:39,270 --> 00:39:37,750
well i guess what she's gonna probably

1054
00:39:41,109 --> 00:39:39,280
do

1055
00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:41,119
is refresh everything that's what we had

1056
00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:42,720
to do before

1057
00:39:48,950 --> 00:39:46,160
but in the meantime uh

1058
00:39:50,950 --> 00:39:48,960
if anybody has any questions in the chat

1059
00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:50,960
room i think i can answer them for you

1060
00:39:58,710 --> 00:39:54,560
until kitchen gets back on with us uh if

1061
00:40:05,910 --> 00:40:02,790
i kind of kind of left hanging here but

1062
00:40:09,109 --> 00:40:05,920
i mean if you if you have any question

1063
00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:09,119
uh lon was it a fluke scene the full

1064
00:40:12,790 --> 00:40:10,720
body apparitions

1065
00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:12,800
are we meant to see them for unknown

1066
00:40:18,950 --> 00:40:14,800
reasons you know i don't know

1067
00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:18,960
uh i guess it could be a fluke but you

1068
00:40:24,069 --> 00:40:21,040
know like i said before

1069
00:40:25,349 --> 00:40:24,079
if you uh i guess it kind of depends on

1070
00:40:27,750 --> 00:40:25,359
the living

1071
00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:27,760
i mean if you're if you're uh

1072
00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:30,000
susceptible to that

1073
00:40:34,309 --> 00:40:33,280
and you're able to see that yeah then i

1074
00:40:39,589 --> 00:40:34,319
mean i think that's

1075
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:39,599
that's why that will happen um

1076
00:40:43,349 --> 00:40:41,280
are we meant to see them for unknown

1077
00:40:45,190 --> 00:40:43,359
reasons baby

1078
00:40:47,109 --> 00:40:45,200
you know you know just like i was saying

1079
00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:47,119
before with kids

1080
00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:50,240
uh you know when when a child

1081
00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:53,040
before they're kind of polluted with the

1082
00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:53,680
world

1083
00:40:58,550 --> 00:40:55,920
and you know and they're told that

1084
00:41:01,349 --> 00:40:58,560
they're not supposed to see these things

1085
00:41:01,750 --> 00:41:01,359
uh they're kind of opened up to it and i

1086
00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:01,760
think

1087
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:05,119
you know these energies know that and

1088
00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:08,560
uh that's why they are

1089
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:11,520
you know to able to recognize

1090
00:41:15,030 --> 00:41:13,200
something's out there

1091
00:41:17,349 --> 00:41:15,040
you know it's it's it's interesting some

1092
00:41:19,030 --> 00:41:17,359
of the things that kids will tell you

1093
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:19,040
young kids will tell you when they when

1094
00:41:24,069 --> 00:41:20,960
they see an apparitions

1095
00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:24,079
or uh some type of energy it's usually

1096
00:41:27,510 --> 00:41:25,200
always a monster

1097
00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:27,520
but you know i've been i have been told

1098
00:41:30,069 --> 00:41:28,800
all kinds of different things can you

1099
00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:30,079
hear me now kitty

1100
00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:32,800
i can hear you can you hear me yes ma'am

1101
00:41:37,349 --> 00:41:34,000
i can

1102
00:41:38,069 --> 00:41:37,359
so i had this ghost follow me home years

1103
00:41:40,309 --> 00:41:38,079
ago

1104
00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:40,319
and she likes to mess with my audio when

1105
00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:42,640
i don't talk about her enough

1106
00:41:49,990 --> 00:41:45,119
so there you go we've spoken of anna she

1107
00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:52,150
you know that does happen though you

1108
00:41:54,950 --> 00:41:53,280
know

1109
00:41:56,390 --> 00:41:54,960
it was kind of a running joke on one of

1110
00:41:59,349 --> 00:41:56,400
the other shows i used to

1111
00:42:01,670 --> 00:41:59,359
be on with somebody else uh that when we

1112
00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:01,680
were talking about alien beings

1113
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:04,640
for whatever reason we were getting all

1114
00:42:09,109 --> 00:42:06,160
kinds of interference

1115
00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:09,119
on the radio i mean you know went on

1116
00:42:14,230 --> 00:42:10,960
online i mean it was some

1117
00:42:17,109 --> 00:42:14,240
weird stuff that was going on so uh

1118
00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:17,119
you know maybe this the spirits are

1119
00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:18,640
letting you know

1120
00:42:25,270 --> 00:42:21,920
too oh

1121
00:42:28,069 --> 00:42:25,280
yeah so anna i had met her at a

1122
00:42:28,790 --> 00:42:28,079
location we interacted all night long

1123
00:42:31,349 --> 00:42:28,800
and

1124
00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:31,359
she actually helps me at this point get

1125
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:32,640
the evidence

1126
00:42:37,349 --> 00:42:34,560
so i should probably give her a shout

1127
00:42:38,710 --> 00:42:37,359
out and she's probably right behind me

1128
00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:38,720
we just can't see her

1129
00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:40,560
because she's the only one that messes

1130
00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:42,160
with my audio so

1131
00:42:50,390 --> 00:42:48,790
so i i mean does she actually help you

1132
00:42:53,349 --> 00:42:50,400
in investigations

1133
00:42:53,670 --> 00:42:53,359
she does honestly i'm right she really

1134
00:42:56,950 --> 00:42:53,680
does

1135
00:43:00,470 --> 00:42:56,960
at one point um i had

1136
00:43:02,390 --> 00:43:00,480
i was at a location and she was the one

1137
00:43:04,390 --> 00:43:02,400
that was answering the questions for me

1138
00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:04,400
i was doing a dowsing rod session

1139
00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:06,560
flashlight on the spirit box it was all

1140
00:43:10,230 --> 00:43:08,160
going on at once

1141
00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:10,240
but i finally asked her because she's

1142
00:43:15,430 --> 00:43:12,000
always coming over on my spirit

1143
00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:15,440
box i know her voice she's been with me

1144
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:16,319
for years

1145
00:43:19,670 --> 00:43:18,880
i investigated in australia her voice

1146
00:43:22,390 --> 00:43:19,680
came over on

1147
00:43:23,990 --> 00:43:22,400
australian radio i mean that's not even

1148
00:43:27,030 --> 00:43:24,000
a thing

1149
00:43:29,349 --> 00:43:27,040
and i asked her i said anna are are you

1150
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:29,359
helping these ghosts know that it's okay

1151
00:43:34,390 --> 00:43:31,200
to communicate with us

1152
00:43:37,829 --> 00:43:34,400
and she said yes so

1153
00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:37,839
um i need to give her more props and she

1154
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:38,960
really schooled me

1155
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:43,440
in that this evening so anna i thank you

1156
00:43:46,710 --> 00:43:46,240
um yeah she was a 15 year old servant

1157
00:43:49,270 --> 00:43:46,720
girl

1158
00:43:51,589 --> 00:43:49,280
from uh new albany indiana the

1159
00:43:55,270 --> 00:43:51,599
culbertson mansion had only been

1160
00:43:59,349 --> 00:43:55,280
investigated one other time and

1161
00:44:02,150 --> 00:43:59,359
we had such a connection at the location

1162
00:44:03,270 --> 00:44:02,160
that she followed me home and i did

1163
00:44:05,510 --> 00:44:03,280
forget to

1164
00:44:08,390 --> 00:44:05,520
you know do the saging smudging thing at

1165
00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:08,400
the end of the evening but my thing is

1166
00:44:12,309 --> 00:44:11,119
you know why do ghosts i mean if if

1167
00:44:14,950 --> 00:44:12,319
ghosts were humans

1168
00:44:17,030 --> 00:44:14,960
and we have free will why don't spirits

1169
00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:17,040
have free will and why can't they just

1170
00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:18,880
follow us home if they decide they like

1171
00:44:22,630 --> 00:44:20,240
us

1172
00:44:23,910 --> 00:44:22,640
well i know i i know they will i mean

1173
00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:23,920
they will do that

1174
00:44:31,030 --> 00:44:27,760
uh you know when i had when i used to do

1175
00:44:32,710 --> 00:44:31,040
clearings um

1176
00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:32,720
you know i would tell people you know i

1177
00:44:37,430 --> 00:44:34,720
i can't guarantee

1178
00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:37,440
that i can clear an entity from your

1179
00:44:42,550 --> 00:44:40,319
location because they have free will

1180
00:44:45,109 --> 00:44:42,560
you know you know if they don't want to

1181
00:44:47,270 --> 00:44:45,119
leave they will not go

1182
00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:47,280
uh you can kind of coax them to a

1183
00:44:51,430 --> 00:44:49,280
certain degree you can kind of bring

1184
00:44:52,309 --> 00:44:51,440
other energies into the picture to try

1185
00:44:55,670 --> 00:44:52,319
to move them

1186
00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:55,680
along but that is

1187
00:45:00,870 --> 00:44:59,040
doesn't always work out that way and uh

1188
00:45:02,470 --> 00:45:00,880
you know they're they're just like the

1189
00:45:03,990 --> 00:45:02,480
living they've got free will they don't

1190
00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:04,000
want to do it they won't do it

1191
00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:07,440
exactly yeah so i've i

1192
00:45:12,390 --> 00:45:10,319
walked into i went to zac baggins

1193
00:45:13,109 --> 00:45:12,400
haunted museum in las vegas which i

1194
00:45:16,069 --> 00:45:13,119
adore

1195
00:45:18,150 --> 00:45:16,079
i love it he did a great job he is an

1196
00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:18,160
entertainer and knows how to sell

1197
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:20,640
um but i did a tarot card reading when i

1198
00:45:23,589 --> 00:45:22,560
was there and as soon as i walked in the

1199
00:45:25,910 --> 00:45:23,599
door

1200
00:45:26,790 --> 00:45:25,920
his uh tarot card reader looked at me

1201
00:45:29,349 --> 00:45:26,800
goes oh

1202
00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:29,359
you've got a lot of people with you and

1203
00:45:33,510 --> 00:45:29,920
i'm like

1204
00:45:35,030 --> 00:45:33,520
oh really great she's like you've been

1205
00:45:37,030 --> 00:45:35,040
offering up your energy on these

1206
00:45:39,349 --> 00:45:37,040
investigations haven't you and i'm like

1207
00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:39,359
well yeah sometimes when things are a

1208
00:45:42,630 --> 00:45:40,800
little quiet at night

1209
00:45:44,710 --> 00:45:42,640
and we're sitting there trying to get

1210
00:45:47,349 --> 00:45:44,720
you know spirit activity

1211
00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:47,359
i offer up my energy just like i would

1212
00:45:50,710 --> 00:45:49,200
you know my batteries energy and my

1213
00:45:54,470 --> 00:45:50,720
camera or anything

1214
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:54,480
so stop that right now because the fact

1215
00:45:57,270 --> 00:45:54,960
that

1216
00:45:58,790 --> 00:45:57,280
you're offering them to use your energy

1217
00:46:00,710 --> 00:45:58,800
they think they can do whatever they

1218
00:46:04,230 --> 00:46:00,720
want with you after that

1219
00:46:05,270 --> 00:46:04,240
so i i don't know that it's stopped

1220
00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:05,280
anything from file

1221
00:46:08,950 --> 00:46:07,200
actually i know that it hasn't stopped

1222
00:46:12,230 --> 00:46:08,960
anything from following me home

1223
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:12,240
so i've had two that i know of that have

1224
00:46:16,470 --> 00:46:13,200
made themselves

1225
00:46:19,510 --> 00:46:16,480
very known to me

1226
00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:19,520
to females and i don't mind it

1227
00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:21,040
i say you know as long as you leave my

1228
00:46:26,550 --> 00:46:23,040
husband alone and

1229
00:46:31,109 --> 00:46:28,790
yeah you know it's funny and i i tell

1230
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:31,119
the story a few times um

1231
00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:33,760
you know when i was helping people who

1232
00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:35,280
have um

1233
00:46:38,710 --> 00:46:37,200
who had possible attachments and then

1234
00:46:40,630 --> 00:46:38,720
they they

1235
00:46:42,069 --> 00:46:40,640
come to me and ask well you know is

1236
00:46:43,829 --> 00:46:42,079
there something you can do for me

1237
00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:43,839
but you know what the funny thing about

1238
00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:45,119
that is

1239
00:46:48,150 --> 00:46:46,720
that most of these people have these

1240
00:46:50,950 --> 00:46:48,160
attachments are people that

1241
00:46:53,190 --> 00:46:50,960
actually go into the paranormal and try

1242
00:46:56,150 --> 00:46:53,200
to investigate locations

1243
00:46:56,550 --> 00:46:56,160
and by not protecting themselves they

1244
00:46:58,870 --> 00:46:56,560
get an

1245
00:47:00,069 --> 00:46:58,880
attachment and and many times it happens

1246
00:47:01,829 --> 00:47:00,079
to people that

1247
00:47:03,190 --> 00:47:01,839
want to go out to a graveyard or out to

1248
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:03,200
a cemetery

1249
00:47:07,349 --> 00:47:06,400
and start you know a reason hell out

1250
00:47:10,550 --> 00:47:07,359
there or start

1251
00:47:13,510 --> 00:47:10,560
saying things to the energies uh

1252
00:47:15,109 --> 00:47:13,520
to upset them and many times it leads to

1253
00:47:18,470 --> 00:47:15,119
an attachment

1254
00:47:21,030 --> 00:47:18,480
uh you know i've seen it many times

1255
00:47:21,510 --> 00:47:21,040
well there you go don't provoke people

1256
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:21,520
that's

1257
00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:24,720
show

1258
00:47:27,990 --> 00:47:27,520
stop the provoking and here's the thing

1259
00:47:30,950 --> 00:47:28,000
though

1260
00:47:31,349 --> 00:47:30,960
if if you know an investigator's being a

1261
00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:31,359
jerk

1262
00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:33,280
why would you even want to follow them

1263
00:47:37,670 --> 00:47:35,440
home i know i wouldn't if i were the

1264
00:47:39,510 --> 00:47:37,680
dead person

1265
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:39,520
well like i said before a lot of it has

1266
00:47:42,390 --> 00:47:40,800
to do with attention

1267
00:47:44,069 --> 00:47:42,400
you know they want to let you know

1268
00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:44,079
they're there but

1269
00:47:49,109 --> 00:47:47,520
uh you know even though cemeteries are

1270
00:47:52,150 --> 00:47:49,119
scary at night and

1271
00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:52,160
you know you got all the connotations

1272
00:47:55,510 --> 00:47:54,720
connected with that uh you're going to

1273
00:47:57,430 --> 00:47:55,520
find a few

1274
00:47:59,109 --> 00:47:57,440
bad ones out there hanging around i mean

1275
00:48:01,349 --> 00:47:59,119
they're going to be some a lot of

1276
00:48:02,950 --> 00:48:01,359
there's a lot of malevolency hanging

1277
00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:02,960
around in cemeteries i mean

1278
00:48:08,069 --> 00:48:06,400
it's that's just the way it is so uh

1279
00:48:09,750 --> 00:48:08,079
if you don't protect yourself and you go

1280
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:09,760
out there and start acting like a fool

1281
00:48:15,190 --> 00:48:12,319
yeah uh you're gonna you're gonna regret

1282
00:48:19,750 --> 00:48:18,150
yes and you know what if if somebody's a

1283
00:48:20,870 --> 00:48:19,760
jerk in life they're going to be a jerk

1284
00:48:23,190 --> 00:48:20,880
and death and

1285
00:48:25,510 --> 00:48:23,200
you piss off the wrong ghost they're

1286
00:48:29,030 --> 00:48:25,520
just going to make your life hell

1287
00:48:31,670 --> 00:48:29,040
absolutely yep that yeah you you know

1288
00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:31,680
i mean you're saying you're kind of

1289
00:48:34,470 --> 00:48:33,280
preaching what i have preached for a

1290
00:48:36,470 --> 00:48:34,480
long time now i

1291
00:48:38,309 --> 00:48:36,480
you know i just really you know it

1292
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:38,319
upsets me when i see that you know when

1293
00:48:43,829 --> 00:48:39,359
i used to

1294
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:43,839
on tv a lot when they first started

1295
00:48:47,750 --> 00:48:45,359
coming out

1296
00:48:49,510 --> 00:48:47,760
and it used to really bug me when they

1297
00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:49,520
provoked these energies i mean they

1298
00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:50,880
would go out there and see this

1299
00:48:54,309 --> 00:48:53,359
this and that you know when my wife is

1300
00:48:55,829 --> 00:48:54,319
still living

1301
00:48:58,069 --> 00:48:55,839
she'd be sitting beside me watching

1302
00:49:01,190 --> 00:48:58,079
these with me and she said

1303
00:49:02,069 --> 00:49:01,200
why you get so upset you know i i just

1304
00:49:05,349 --> 00:49:02,079
it just really

1305
00:49:07,510 --> 00:49:05,359
burned me up yeah i

1306
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:07,520
you know i kind of that's some of them

1307
00:49:12,150 --> 00:49:09,280
it's just their shtick

1308
00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:12,160
and yeah you know i i feel like

1309
00:49:16,630 --> 00:49:14,400
sometimes there's an underground

1310
00:49:18,309 --> 00:49:16,640
spirit telephone line and i think they

1311
00:49:23,910 --> 00:49:18,319
warn each other about

1312
00:49:28,630 --> 00:49:25,670
so they just send them the tough guys to

1313
00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:28,640
deal with those people

1314
00:49:31,910 --> 00:49:30,400
well you know i did i did read the book

1315
00:49:34,950 --> 00:49:31,920
it's very interesting very

1316
00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:34,960
well written uh do you plan on writing

1317
00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:36,720
another one

1318
00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:40,160
um i hope so i i hope it sells

1319
00:49:44,549 --> 00:49:43,040
so that beyond the fray asked me back to

1320
00:49:45,990 --> 00:49:44,559
write another book

1321
00:49:47,750 --> 00:49:46,000
but thank you so much for the

1322
00:49:50,470 --> 00:49:47,760
compliments um it's

1323
00:49:52,549 --> 00:49:50,480
it's written very conversational

1324
00:49:55,349 --> 00:49:52,559
everybody sat here and listened to me

1325
00:49:56,790 --> 00:49:55,359
that's that's how i tell my stories i i

1326
00:49:58,549 --> 00:49:56,800
don't hold anything back

1327
00:50:01,030 --> 00:49:58,559
there are some curse words i'm not going

1328
00:50:05,829 --> 00:50:01,040
to lie and

1329
00:50:07,990 --> 00:50:05,839
it's pretty much what happened

1330
00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:08,000
it's a nice companion piece to the show

1331
00:50:12,790 --> 00:50:10,079
that's on amazon prime which is called

1332
00:50:14,710 --> 00:50:12,800
oddity files um because it's a look

1333
00:50:16,790 --> 00:50:14,720
inside my head which you don't

1334
00:50:17,829 --> 00:50:16,800
get when you're watching these shows on

1335
00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:17,839
tv

1336
00:50:22,390 --> 00:50:21,040
um i could explain in more depth like

1337
00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:22,400
three times in my

1338
00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:25,440
entire investigative career i've seen

1339
00:50:31,829 --> 00:50:29,200
memories that weren't mine

1340
00:50:32,950 --> 00:50:31,839
of mine her name's tiffany rice she told

1341
00:50:36,069 --> 00:50:32,960
me that's

1342
00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:36,079
that's how psychic mediums see

1343
00:50:41,030 --> 00:50:39,760
things so um i was able to get into

1344
00:50:43,589 --> 00:50:41,040
greater detail

1345
00:50:44,870 --> 00:50:43,599
in the book about what i actually saw

1346
00:50:48,069 --> 00:50:44,880
and how i actually

1347
00:50:51,510 --> 00:50:48,079
felt felt when it went down and

1348
00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:51,520
um is my uh yeah it's getting you're

1349
00:50:56,790 --> 00:50:53,200
getting a little interference coming up

1350
00:51:01,430 --> 00:50:56,800
yeah anna stop

1351
00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:03,750
i'm serious please stop okay well it

1352
00:51:07,430 --> 00:51:04,960
sounds good now it's it

1353
00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:07,440
that kind of cuts out once in a while

1354
00:51:11,190 --> 00:51:08,000
i'm so

1355
00:51:13,750 --> 00:51:11,200
sorry this has never happened i

1356
00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:13,760
turned off all oh somebody's asking if i

1357
00:51:17,349 --> 00:51:14,640
read palms

1358
00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:17,359
no that's just a halloween decoration i

1359
00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:18,480
got

1360
00:51:23,270 --> 00:51:21,520
um this halloween on clearance at the

1361
00:51:26,470 --> 00:51:23,280
end of the season but it's so

1362
00:51:30,150 --> 00:51:26,480
cool isn't it i do tarot cards

1363
00:51:33,670 --> 00:51:30,160
that's fun yeah i used to do

1364
00:51:35,750 --> 00:51:33,680
some divination before too

1365
00:51:37,030 --> 00:51:35,760
i had a bad experience with ouija board

1366
00:51:39,349 --> 00:51:37,040
years ago when i was a kid

1367
00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:39,359
and i i just stayed absolutely away from

1368
00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:40,160
that

1369
00:51:44,950 --> 00:51:43,359
so you know all the uh all the warnings

1370
00:51:45,510 --> 00:51:44,960
about ouija boards and i've written

1371
00:51:48,630 --> 00:51:45,520
about it

1372
00:51:49,990 --> 00:51:48,640
as well from what people sent me

1373
00:51:51,750 --> 00:51:50,000
it's true they're just something about

1374
00:51:52,549 --> 00:51:51,760
ouija boards i just can't stand you know

1375
00:51:55,750 --> 00:51:52,559
i was at a

1376
00:51:59,510 --> 00:51:55,760
gettysburg

1377
00:52:02,230 --> 00:51:59,520
about five or six years ago and

1378
00:52:03,510 --> 00:52:02,240
one of the guys uh who i was with sean

1379
00:52:06,230 --> 00:52:03,520
forker who

1380
00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:06,240
he's on our group and uh does a very

1381
00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:08,240
used to the radio show with me

1382
00:52:12,309 --> 00:52:09,760
he was sitting there with me and this

1383
00:52:14,309 --> 00:52:12,319
guy this guy beside us

1384
00:52:16,630 --> 00:52:14,319
had these old ouija boards his old

1385
00:52:19,349 --> 00:52:16,640
handmade ouija board that he was selling

1386
00:52:21,910 --> 00:52:19,359
and they were antique ouija boards and

1387
00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:21,920
he started pulling him out on the table

1388
00:52:25,349 --> 00:52:23,760
i had to walk away from the place

1389
00:52:27,510 --> 00:52:25,359
because i i had

1390
00:52:29,430 --> 00:52:27,520
it was just bothering me so bad the

1391
00:52:31,510 --> 00:52:29,440
energy coming off that thing

1392
00:52:32,870 --> 00:52:31,520
those you know those ouija boards it

1393
00:52:35,270 --> 00:52:32,880
just really drew me

1394
00:52:37,030 --> 00:52:35,280
you know it just drew me out of my mind

1395
00:52:38,470 --> 00:52:37,040
you know and they were all laughing at

1396
00:52:39,589 --> 00:52:38,480
me because they said oh we could tell as

1397
00:52:41,430 --> 00:52:39,599
soon as the guys started putting them

1398
00:52:44,470 --> 00:52:41,440
out there was bothering you

1399
00:52:46,309 --> 00:52:44,480
but uh yeah i collected vintage ouija

1400
00:52:50,069 --> 00:52:46,319
boards and mississippi

1401
00:52:51,910 --> 00:52:50,079
from the 70s and 60s yeah

1402
00:52:53,589 --> 00:52:51,920
do i have a family that fought in the

1403
00:52:54,790 --> 00:52:53,599
civil war i see the question on the

1404
00:52:57,910 --> 00:52:54,800
screen there

1405
00:53:01,030 --> 00:52:57,920
i my uncle would know i don't

1406
00:53:03,030 --> 00:53:01,040
i didn't do a lot of genealogy stuff

1407
00:53:04,549 --> 00:53:03,040
i need to i'm getting to that age where

1408
00:53:07,829 --> 00:53:04,559
i need to get into that

1409
00:53:09,589 --> 00:53:07,839
um yes i'm obsessed with mystical games

1410
00:53:12,950 --> 00:53:09,599
from the 60s and 70s

1411
00:53:16,150 --> 00:53:12,960
i have a closet full of them over here

1412
00:53:19,270 --> 00:53:16,160
um i just think they're so cool you know

1413
00:53:21,990 --> 00:53:19,280
i do i play with them no but i collect

1414
00:53:22,870 --> 00:53:22,000
them well i mean there's nothing wrong

1415
00:53:25,030 --> 00:53:22,880
with collecting

1416
00:53:26,309 --> 00:53:25,040
i just know it does i wouldn't do it

1417
00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:26,319
personally

1418
00:53:31,030 --> 00:53:28,960
but uh you know i you know i had done a

1419
00:53:32,950 --> 00:53:31,040
lot of divination like i said

1420
00:53:34,069 --> 00:53:32,960
you said the tarot cards and that type

1421
00:53:36,390 --> 00:53:34,079
of thing

1422
00:53:38,470 --> 00:53:36,400
uh yeah you know i've kind of gotten

1423
00:53:40,549 --> 00:53:38,480
into a lot of that crystals

1424
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:40,559
i'm really into the crystals not as much

1425
00:53:45,510 --> 00:53:42,000
as i used to be but i

1426
00:53:48,549 --> 00:53:45,520
yeah oh are ya oh yeah

1427
00:53:50,309 --> 00:53:48,559
yeah you know i when i

1428
00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:50,319
recently moved about two years ago i

1429
00:53:52,790 --> 00:53:51,760
didn't even bother taking anything out

1430
00:53:54,549 --> 00:53:52,800
of the box

1431
00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:54,559
you know because i used to have my own i

1432
00:53:58,710 --> 00:53:56,160
used to have in my

1433
00:54:01,349 --> 00:53:58,720
my cabinets and such and all that but i

1434
00:54:05,829 --> 00:54:03,030
there's only so many places you can put

1435
00:54:09,190 --> 00:54:05,839
a crystal in your house oh absolutely

1436
00:54:10,390 --> 00:54:09,200
you're right you know i these weren't my

1437
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:10,400
working crystals these are just

1438
00:54:12,950 --> 00:54:12,240
specimens for everybody that came in to

1439
00:54:15,430 --> 00:54:12,960
look at

1440
00:54:17,829 --> 00:54:15,440
yeah uh but you know my working crystals

1441
00:54:20,150 --> 00:54:17,839
are still around but

1442
00:54:22,150 --> 00:54:20,160
i'm a sucker for walking into a crystal

1443
00:54:24,069 --> 00:54:22,160
shop and i pick one up and it gives you

1444
00:54:27,109 --> 00:54:24,079
all the right tingles and i'm like well

1445
00:54:28,549 --> 00:54:27,119
i gotta leave with this one now

1446
00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:28,559
and you know people don't understand

1447
00:54:31,270 --> 00:54:30,319
that you know when you're gonna buy a

1448
00:54:33,750 --> 00:54:31,280
crystal

1449
00:54:35,109 --> 00:54:33,760
if you pick that up you do get that

1450
00:54:37,430 --> 00:54:35,119
sensation

1451
00:54:38,870 --> 00:54:37,440
that uh i gotta have this one i mean

1452
00:54:40,630 --> 00:54:38,880
there's something about this when the

1453
00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:40,640
energy in this one

1454
00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:43,680
uh it's gotta come home with me yeah and

1455
00:54:47,589 --> 00:54:45,359
uh

1456
00:54:48,870 --> 00:54:47,599
i spent a lot of money that way but it

1457
00:54:51,349 --> 00:54:48,880
that's just the way that

1458
00:54:52,150 --> 00:54:51,359
tell me about it ah now i just try to

1459
00:54:53,829 --> 00:54:52,160
keep with the

1460
00:54:55,510 --> 00:54:53,839
you know the bracelets so i can keep

1461
00:54:57,990 --> 00:54:55,520
them on my person

1462
00:54:59,349 --> 00:54:58,000
i can cheat use which ones i feel i need

1463
00:55:02,630 --> 00:54:59,359
that day

1464
00:55:04,829 --> 00:55:02,640
um yeah but i need to stop buying them

1465
00:55:07,349 --> 00:55:04,839
because i'm running out of places to put

1466
00:55:09,109 --> 00:55:07,359
them

1467
00:55:11,109 --> 00:55:09,119
well i can totally understand what

1468
00:55:13,589 --> 00:55:11,119
you're talking about

1469
00:55:15,270 --> 00:55:13,599
so let's let's talk a bit about you your

1470
00:55:17,349 --> 00:55:15,280
show the audio files you know i

1471
00:55:18,789 --> 00:55:17,359
i did watch a few of them tonight i

1472
00:55:23,589 --> 00:55:18,799
watched the uh

1473
00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:23,599
the last two the uh mackie and and also

1474
00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:26,640
down at um uh down louisville

1475
00:55:34,870 --> 00:55:30,640
at the center yeah waverly hills

1476
00:55:37,030 --> 00:55:34,880
uh very good interesting i mean

1477
00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:37,040
uh do you do are you involved with the

1478
00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:38,880
production of that or

1479
00:55:44,870 --> 00:55:42,880
yeah i mean all me well aside from

1480
00:55:46,390 --> 00:55:44,880
boys handle the camera work while we're

1481
00:55:50,630 --> 00:55:46,400
there um

1482
00:55:52,950 --> 00:55:50,640
i edited probably 98 per

1483
00:55:54,950 --> 00:55:52,960
maybe even 99 of the episodes clayton

1484
00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:54,960
did help me out with a couple

1485
00:55:59,910 --> 00:55:58,000
um yeah and it's it's a lot

1486
00:56:01,589 --> 00:55:59,920
it's a whole lot especially when i was

1487
00:56:04,230 --> 00:56:01,599
working full-time

1488
00:56:04,789 --> 00:56:04,240
at the time so that's why i'm kind of

1489
00:56:08,390 --> 00:56:04,799
chilling

1490
00:56:10,230 --> 00:56:08,400
sitting back investigating you know

1491
00:56:11,589 --> 00:56:10,240
these people's homes do i take all the

1492
00:56:14,789 --> 00:56:11,599
cameras with me

1493
00:56:16,630 --> 00:56:14,799
yeah um am i gonna do anything with it

1494
00:56:18,630 --> 00:56:16,640
i don't know i think i'm ready for a

1495
00:56:23,349 --> 00:56:18,640
production company to come in and sweep

1496
00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:25,670
yeah i i think that's that's the route i

1497
00:56:30,230 --> 00:56:27,440
would go if that ever came

1498
00:56:31,670 --> 00:56:30,240
to pass i'm not into really doing any

1499
00:56:34,710 --> 00:56:31,680
type of production work

1500
00:56:35,829 --> 00:56:34,720
but it it is a good show and i mean are

1501
00:56:39,990 --> 00:56:35,839
you playing on a fourth

1502
00:56:43,270 --> 00:56:40,000
season um no the pandemic hit

1503
00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:43,280
two episodes into season four

1504
00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:44,640
and they're just kind of sitting on a

1505
00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:46,559
hard drive right now and then

1506
00:56:51,430 --> 00:56:49,200
like i said clayton had moved away he's

1507
00:56:53,589 --> 00:56:51,440
all the way out in california now

1508
00:56:54,630 --> 00:56:53,599
and then my son is starting a new

1509
00:56:57,990 --> 00:56:54,640
business with his

1510
00:57:00,710 --> 00:56:58,000
dad so and i think he's just over it

1511
00:57:01,190 --> 00:57:00,720
it's not his like jam like it is mine

1512
00:57:04,789 --> 00:57:01,200
he's

1513
00:57:08,069 --> 00:57:04,799
here to hang out with you

1514
00:57:09,910 --> 00:57:08,079
god love him yeah my my son's the same

1515
00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:09,920
way i mean i try to get him involved

1516
00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:12,720
with cases but

1517
00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:14,880
he he got he got away i guess he did it

1518
00:57:21,030 --> 00:57:16,240
to make me happy

1519
00:57:23,589 --> 00:57:21,040
yeah yeah absolutely

1520
00:57:24,549 --> 00:57:23,599
so um if people want to contact you how

1521
00:57:28,470 --> 00:57:24,559
can they do that

1522
00:57:31,109 --> 00:57:28,480
kitsy if you go to flow.page

1523
00:57:33,349 --> 00:57:31,119
slash kitsy duncan it's got all my

1524
00:57:34,870 --> 00:57:33,359
social media on there it's got my email

1525
00:57:36,470 --> 00:57:34,880
addresses on there

1526
00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:36,480
it's got where you can watch the show

1527
00:57:40,870 --> 00:57:38,400
where you can buy the book and where you

1528
00:57:44,789 --> 00:57:40,880
can listen to my podcasts

1529
00:57:45,430 --> 00:57:44,799
as well well you know if you have amazon

1530
00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:45,440
prime i

1531
00:57:48,870 --> 00:57:47,920
i suggest you go watch it's very

1532
00:57:52,230 --> 00:57:48,880
interesting

1533
00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:52,240
very well done and i'm quite sure

1534
00:57:56,230 --> 00:57:54,400
you would enjoy listening to it kitty

1535
00:57:57,190 --> 00:57:56,240
thanks again for coming on the show this

1536
00:58:00,069 --> 00:57:57,200
evening

1537
00:58:00,789 --> 00:58:00,079
and i will try to get you back again i

1538
00:58:02,470 --> 00:58:00,799
would love that

1539
00:58:04,789 --> 00:58:02,480
absolutely this was so much fun it was

1540
00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:04,799
so great to get to know you lon

1541
00:58:08,069 --> 00:58:07,440
well i i'm just glad that you uh you

1542
00:58:10,950 --> 00:58:08,079
know we

1543
00:58:11,990 --> 00:58:10,960
got connected with shannon and shannon's

1544
00:58:15,109 --> 00:58:12,000
great you know that

1545
00:58:17,589 --> 00:58:15,119
and yeah so

1546
00:58:18,230 --> 00:58:17,599
uh you take care and we'll be talking

1547
00:58:23,190 --> 00:58:18,240
soon

1548
00:58:25,030 --> 00:58:23,200
you too thank you so much

1549
00:58:26,630 --> 00:58:25,040
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1550
00:58:28,069 --> 00:58:26,640
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1551
00:58:29,510 --> 00:58:28,079
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1552
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1553
00:58:33,670 --> 00:58:31,520
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1555
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1557
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1559
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1560
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1562
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1564
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1565
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1566
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1567
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1568
00:59:11,589 --> 00:59:09,680
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1569
00:59:14,390 --> 00:59:11,599
joining me this evening